Mouse on Mars on Working with Lee 'Scratch' Perry and 30 Years of Oblique Adventures in Sound

Interviewing Mouse on Mars: A Conversation Like No Other

Interviewing Mouse on Mars is no easy feat. Not because the duo are hard to find, even though their current studio is hidden in a courtyard deep in Berlin’s Kreuzberg district. Nor because they continue to be notoriously busy, particularly since one half of the band, Jan St Werner (born Jan Stephan Werner), is now a professor in pop music, at the Folkwang University of the Arts in the western German city of Essen.

The Collaboration with Lee 'Scratch' Perry

After a five-year silence, they are about to release Spatial, No Problem, a collaboration with Lee “Scratch” Perry recorded during the late dub and reggae legend’s whirlwind visit to their former Berlin studio in 2019, two years before his death aged 85. The meeting had been set up by mutual friends, though it was not clear whether it would really happen until Perry arrived at Berlin’s airport – the former Bob Marley producer had a reputation for unpredictability, and dates kept shifting.

The Making of Spatial, No Problem

The result is a collage-esque fever dream of a record, marrying Perry’s signature free-flowing vocals with a strange, yet warm mix of countless instruments played by friends, all held together by glitchy electronics. They had the idea to record the session as spatial audio, a technology used to mimic a more “natural” hearing experience in 3D. Asking about his familiarity with the technique, Perry answered with a wide grin, and the sentence “Spatial? No problem”. The title to the album was born, which includes recordings that are said to be some of Perry’s last.

The Impact of the Collaboration

Their reverence for Perry is obvious, every attempt to steer the conversation towards other topics brings the trio back to their time with him. They paint a picture of a creative frenzy: technicians installing microphones whichever corner Perry ended up standing and performing in, friends popping in and out of the sessions, NKishi being proclaimed “God” by Perry in a graffito on the studio’s walls, a general sense of a meeting of minds between artists with a similarly anarchic approach to life and craft.

The Future of Mouse on Mars

At a moment when the music industry is becoming ever more algorithmic, more optimised, more relentlessly targeting fickle attention-spans on social media, Mouse on Mars remain a genuinely anomalous proposition: a band whose greatest asset is their refusal to be legible. And they have been doing this for 30 years, ending up somewhere entirely different than originally planned – and making it sound, against all odds, exactly where they meant to be.